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		<title>by: Roy</title>
		<link>http://livinginstereo.com/?p=194#comment-4145</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 04:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hey Shelea. Thanks for the compliment on the site. The genius, however, is David Cantwell. I just convert that genius into html :)  

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		<title>by: Shelea</title>
		<link>http://livinginstereo.com/?p=194#comment-4088</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 00:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>This website is cool!
HEY ROY CALL ME!!!!!!!!!</description>
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HEY ROY CALL ME!!!!!!!!!
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		<title>by: Shelea</title>
		<link>http://livinginstereo.com/?p=194#comment-4087</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 00:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I can only think of one  war song that I have ever heard and that song is &quot;Travelin Soldier&quot; by the Dixie Chicks.I love this song!</description>
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		<title>by: Roy</title>
		<link>http://livinginstereo.com/?p=194#comment-335</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jul 2006 15:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Off the top of my head, I can think of two recent and very moving anti-war songs: &quot;Alone on the Homestead&quot; by The Mammals and &quot;Black Doves&quot; by Amelia White. Both of them capture the essential loss of war; in their own way, they're as moving as any songs I've heard this year.

Josh Ritter's &quot;Girl In the War&quot; is much more oblique, but no less remarkable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Off the top of my head, I can think of two recent and very moving anti-war songs: &#8220;Alone on the Homestead&#8221; by The Mammals and &#8220;Black Doves&#8221; by Amelia White. Both of them capture the essential loss of war; in their own way, they&#8217;re as moving as any songs I&#8217;ve heard this year.</p>
<p>Josh Ritter&#8217;s &#8220;Girl In the War&#8221; is much more oblique, but no less remarkable.
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		<title>by: livingin</title>
		<link>http://livinginstereo.com/?p=194#comment-328</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jul 2006 16:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I second Ed's recommendation of Kent's two the black experience in Vietnam sets. First rate stuff. I wish they'd do a country version of the concept, though I guess the music I've shared here in this post is at least a beginning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I second Ed&#8217;s recommendation of Kent&#8217;s two the black experience in Vietnam sets. First rate stuff. I wish they&#8217;d do a country version of the concept, though I guess the music I&#8217;ve shared here in this post is at least a beginning.
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		<title>by: Ed Ward</title>
		<link>http://livinginstereo.com/?p=194#comment-326</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jul 2006 12:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Incidentally, there are two great soul compilations, A Soldier's Sad Story and Does Anyone Know I'm Here, on Kent, which deal with the Vietnam War. The songs start out all gung-ho, going to protect our freedoms, and so on, and they wind up asking the question which the Dells ask on the title song of the second comp. Last song on the second one is Funkadelic's &quot;March to the Witch's Castle,&quot; which deals with returning servicemen, addicted to drugs, forgotten by their loved ones, and trying to figure out the society to which they've returned. Powerful stuff, and all too relevant to the current situation. 

Which, I agree, hasn't produced anything nearly as good to date. Unfortunately, it looks like it might last long enough to do so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Incidentally, there are two great soul compilations, A Soldier&#8217;s Sad Story and Does Anyone Know I&#8217;m Here, on Kent, which deal with the Vietnam War. The songs start out all gung-ho, going to protect our freedoms, and so on, and they wind up asking the question which the Dells ask on the title song of the second comp. Last song on the second one is Funkadelic&#8217;s &#8220;March to the Witch&#8217;s Castle,&#8221; which deals with returning servicemen, addicted to drugs, forgotten by their loved ones, and trying to figure out the society to which they&#8217;ve returned. Powerful stuff, and all too relevant to the current situation. </p>
<p>Which, I agree, hasn&#8217;t produced anything nearly as good to date. Unfortunately, it looks like it might last long enough to do so.
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		<title>by: livingin</title>
		<link>http://livinginstereo.com/?p=194#comment-322</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jul 2006 15:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Let me ask you a question, Eric: When have Americans service personnel died, and I mean when have they EVER died, to preserve a right to burn the flag--or the right to free speech of any variety? I can't think of any ex's. All of them fall into the other categories we've mentioned--wars of calculation, of (arguably) self-defense, and of humanitarian goals. 

I also wonder why the emotional reaction of burning a flag is moronic speech, but that the emotional reaction of veterans feeling disrespected by the burning of a flag isn't. At any rate, the meaning speech is only understandable in context, and in those exceedingly rare instances when flags have burned, it's been in a clear context provided by the burners. There's no ambiguity at any rate. Which isn't to say I don't think flag burning mighn't not be moronic but it depends on who and how it's done. Real language, as you say, can be moronic too. 

Thanks for the comliment on the logo. That was my idea, I'm proud to say, but LIving in Stereo's best friend, Roy Kasten, did the hard work to make it happen and look as striking as it does. 

Please keep checking in, sir. You write thoughtfully and well, and dialogue is one big reason why I'm doing this thing anyway. So, thank you for writing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me ask you a question, Eric: When have Americans service personnel died, and I mean when have they EVER died, to preserve a right to burn the flag&#8211;or the right to free speech of any variety? I can&#8217;t think of any ex&#8217;s. All of them fall into the other categories we&#8217;ve mentioned&#8211;wars of calculation, of (arguably) self-defense, and of humanitarian goals. </p>
<p>I also wonder why the emotional reaction of burning a flag is moronic speech, but that the emotional reaction of veterans feeling disrespected by the burning of a flag isn&#8217;t. At any rate, the meaning speech is only understandable in context, and in those exceedingly rare instances when flags have burned, it&#8217;s been in a clear context provided by the burners. There&#8217;s no ambiguity at any rate. Which isn&#8217;t to say I don&#8217;t think flag burning mighn&#8217;t not be moronic but it depends on who and how it&#8217;s done. Real language, as you say, can be moronic too. </p>
<p>Thanks for the comliment on the logo. That was my idea, I&#8217;m proud to say, but LIving in Stereo&#8217;s best friend, Roy Kasten, did the hard work to make it happen and look as striking as it does. </p>
<p>Please keep checking in, sir. You write thoughtfully and well, and dialogue is one big reason why I&#8217;m doing this thing anyway. So, thank you for writing.
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		<title>by: Barry</title>
		<link>http://livinginstereo.com/?p=194#comment-321</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jul 2006 15:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>The thing about picking an &quot;inviolable&quot; SYMBOL is that the nature and extent of the symbol is decided by power--not by consent.  And if this sounds high-fallutin', perhaps we should ask my Senator Bill frisk if the flag desecrayion ammendment, interpreted by some loose Supreme Court, coud make it a fe deral offense to fly say, a Confederate Flkafg.  now THAT's a desecratio of the star-Spangled anner, which did not &quot;yet wave&quot; over THIS part of the country for a while there.  that other flag cna be sene as a dircet a ssualt on it? 

Our relatively newish country has been somewhat slack in finding true common ground and symbols that come out of the culture we've produced together, and so we have this rather unnatural situation of adding all of that extra power to the flag symbol as an icon iself.  We have kids pledge allegiance to the flag (of all things) and, oh yes, then to the nation for whic it stands, and a few worthwhile things attached to that.  We make a song about this banner--and that's what it is, a banner-- lasting  through time the national anthem. 

 We can't deny that, culturally, this  puts extra weight on the thing for many Americans; it's not easy to see why they get worked up. 

 Because what the people who sacrificed much ,including lives, was FOR, was  a nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all, we need to leave people who mess with a symbol alone.  In the name of that liberty.

&quot;Don't tread on me&quot; was a flag too.  And the line was not self-referential.

PS:  Lousy wars yield lousy songs...doo-dah; doo-dah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing about picking an &#8220;inviolable&#8221; SYMBOL is that the nature and extent of the symbol is decided by power&#8211;not by consent.  And if this sounds high-fallutin&#8217;, perhaps we should ask my Senator Bill frisk if the flag desecrayion ammendment, interpreted by some loose Supreme Court, coud make it a fe deral offense to fly say, a Confederate Flkafg.  now THAT&#8217;s a desecratio of the star-Spangled anner, which did not &#8220;yet wave&#8221; over THIS part of the country for a while there.  that other flag cna be sene as a dircet a ssualt on it? </p>
<p>Our relatively newish country has been somewhat slack in finding true common ground and symbols that come out of the culture we&#8217;ve produced together, and so we have this rather unnatural situation of adding all of that extra power to the flag symbol as an icon iself.  We have kids pledge allegiance to the flag (of all things) and, oh yes, then to the nation for whic it stands, and a few worthwhile things attached to that.  We make a song about this banner&#8211;and that&#8217;s what it is, a banner&#8211; lasting  through time the national anthem. </p>
<p> We can&#8217;t deny that, culturally, this  puts extra weight on the thing for many Americans; it&#8217;s not easy to see why they get worked up. </p>
<p> Because what the people who sacrificed much ,including lives, was FOR, was  a nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all, we need to leave people who mess with a symbol alone.  In the name of that liberty.</p>
<p>&#8220;Don&#8217;t tread on me&#8221; was a flag too.  And the line was not self-referential.</p>
<p>PS:  Lousy wars yield lousy songs&#8230;doo-dah; doo-dah.
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		<title>by: livingin</title>
		<link>http://livinginstereo.com/?p=194#comment-320</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jul 2006 15:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hi Eric: On the musical responses to the Iraq war...I've found some of it quite powerful, though much of the best of it has been about that war only in the sense that it addresses some war during a time when war means to most listeners the one in Iraq. Bruce Springsteen's Mrs. McGrath on his Seeger Sessions, for instance, or Travelin' Soldier which of course was written and recorded before the impending Iraq war created a new context for it. I've also been greatly moved by the anti-war music of Michael Franti &amp; Spearhead. They're last album, Everybody Desreves Music, is among my favorites of this century, and the upcoming one, which includes Yell Fire, promises to be strong as well. 

But on the issue of long and informed debate...that's the appopriate response only if one agrees that there is ever a reason to engage in war, other than self-defense or the ceasing of some immediate humanitarian attrocity. And I don't agree. Flag issues in a  new post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Eric: On the musical responses to the Iraq war&#8230;I&#8217;ve found some of it quite powerful, though much of the best of it has been about that war only in the sense that it addresses some war during a time when war means to most listeners the one in Iraq. Bruce Springsteen&#8217;s Mrs. McGrath on his Seeger Sessions, for instance, or Travelin&#8217; Soldier which of course was written and recorded before the impending Iraq war created a new context for it. I&#8217;ve also been greatly moved by the anti-war music of Michael Franti &#038; Spearhead. They&#8217;re last album, Everybody Desreves Music, is among my favorites of this century, and the upcoming one, which includes Yell Fire, promises to be strong as well. </p>
<p>But on the issue of long and informed debate&#8230;that&#8217;s the appopriate response only if one agrees that there is ever a reason to engage in war, other than self-defense or the ceasing of some immediate humanitarian attrocity. And I don&#8217;t agree. Flag issues in a  new post.
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		<title>by: eric</title>
		<link>http://livinginstereo.com/?p=194#comment-318</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jul 2006 05:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I don't think this war has produced good music, either on the anti- or pro- side. I have yet to be moved by any of it. I wish the Dixie Chicks and the Alan Jacksons would all shut up. The Iraq war (which seems to be the one most upsetting to everyone) was a war of calculation. Neither blind &quot;gung-ho-ism&quot; or blind sympathy for the victims is particularly germane to the issue. You can't answer the question, &quot;Is the 'one-percent doctrine' reasonable national policy?&quot; with a song, only with a very long and informed debate. 

On your earlier flag post, I agree in the abstract that, in a sense, men fought and died so that we have the right to burn the flag. But in the real world, many who did serve and defend this country feel that to desecrate the flag is to spit on the graves of those who gave their lives for it. That isn't a universal sentiment among those in the services, but out of respect the flag is one thing that should be sacred, or as sacred as any secular object can be. 

If burning or desecrating the flag is speech, it is pretty moronic speech anyway. Because seeing someone do it doesn't tell me anything really, except that this person is having an emotional reaction. I don't know whether it is a terrorist sympathizer who disrespects our country simply because we do not have an Islamic government following sharia law, or whether it is someone protesting the violation of civil liberties. That's a very large ambiguity.

It is best, I think, to have people express themselves in real language. And to have one national symbol that is inviolable is not a serious imposition.  

I love your vintage RCA Living Stereo graphic by the way. I just started collecting some of that series on CD. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think this war has produced good music, either on the anti- or pro- side. I have yet to be moved by any of it. I wish the Dixie Chicks and the Alan Jacksons would all shut up. The Iraq war (which seems to be the one most upsetting to everyone) was a war of calculation. Neither blind &#8220;gung-ho-ism&#8221; or blind sympathy for the victims is particularly germane to the issue. You can&#8217;t answer the question, &#8220;Is the &#8216;one-percent doctrine&#8217; reasonable national policy?&#8221; with a song, only with a very long and informed debate. </p>
<p>On your earlier flag post, I agree in the abstract that, in a sense, men fought and died so that we have the right to burn the flag. But in the real world, many who did serve and defend this country feel that to desecrate the flag is to spit on the graves of those who gave their lives for it. That isn&#8217;t a universal sentiment among those in the services, but out of respect the flag is one thing that should be sacred, or as sacred as any secular object can be. </p>
<p>If burning or desecrating the flag is speech, it is pretty moronic speech anyway. Because seeing someone do it doesn&#8217;t tell me anything really, except that this person is having an emotional reaction. I don&#8217;t know whether it is a terrorist sympathizer who disrespects our country simply because we do not have an Islamic government following sharia law, or whether it is someone protesting the violation of civil liberties. That&#8217;s a very large ambiguity.</p>
<p>It is best, I think, to have people express themselves in real language. And to have one national symbol that is inviolable is not a serious imposition.  </p>
<p>I love your vintage RCA Living Stereo graphic by the way. I just started collecting some of that series on CD. <img src='http://livinginstereo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />
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